For the Skylab Oral History Project. NASA flight controller, communications officer, and manager. Childhood in Lufkin, Orange, and Huntington, Tex.; education at Stephen F. Austin State University and Lamar State College of Technology; career as mathematics teacher at Port Neches-Groves High School and in U.S.

For the Skylab Oral History Project. NASA engineer and manager. Childhood in Dodson, Texas, and Vinson, Oklahoma; education at Bethany Nazarene College and Southwestern Oklahoma State University; career with NASA in mission control, space shuttle development, and software development, and International Space Station programs; duties on various Gemini, Apollo, Skylab, Space Shuttle and International Space Station missions; Skylab program’s importance to NASA and space exploration; perceptions of NASA’s working and management culture.